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#1 Red top 180

  • Joined:23-January 16
  • Location:Other
  • Car:'93 180sx sr20det

Posted 17 February 2016 - 02:02 PM

I was doing some researching trying to find some 5 stud hubs for my 180, when i came across a car wrecker selling a full r34 gtt brake/hub setup for cheaper than most bare hubs, just wondering if it would be much of an upgrade over the factory sr20det s13 setup? And would it be straight bolt on?

#2 blingcommander

  • Joined:05-October 06
  • Location:Japan
  • Car:Scooty-Puff Jr.

Posted 17 February 2016 - 03:53 PM

Front hubs won't fit, all the rest will. Front knuckles will need caliper mount holes drilled to 14mm iirc. Handbrake cables will need an adapter

#3 Red top 180

  • Joined:23-January 16
  • Location:Other
  • Car:'93 180sx sr20det

Posted 19 February 2016 - 01:46 PM

Hmm so if I source some compatible front hubs the rest will work with only small modifications here and there?

#4 6330

  • Joined:18-February 05
  • Location:Australia WA
  • Car:180sx

Posted 15 March 2016 - 01:15 PM

Iirc the rear shock mounts differently to the upright on a Skyline compared to a Silvia?

#5 davlos

  • Joined:14-August 09
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:180sx White 94

Posted 15 March 2016 - 05:04 PM

You can get full 5 stud conversion kit off eBay for 5-600 and it fits.

#6 blingcommander

  • Joined:05-October 06
  • Location:Japan
  • Car:Scooty-Puff Jr.

Posted 15 March 2016 - 08:35 PM

6330: you don't need to use the skyline knuckle anyway

#7 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 30 April 2016 - 11:48 AM

Im interested to know if the calipers would bolt on to a 180 with 5 stud already done. i currently have s15 calipers on 280mm rotors but need more brakes for track

#8 The Big Fist

  • Joined:10-December 12
  • Location:Australia WA
  • Car:s15

Posted 02 May 2016 - 09:28 AM

Caliper mount holes need to be drilled out to 14mm I think.

#9 Dose Pipe Sutututu

  • Joined:19-January 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:Boat Sutututuutu

Posted 02 May 2016 - 11:41 AM

View PostThe Big Fist, on 02 May 2016 - 09:28 AM, said:

Caliper mount holes need to be drilled out to 14mm I think.

Caliper holes line up 100%
Drill out to 14mm and use R34 GT-t bolts and bob's your uncle.

#10 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 02 May 2016 - 07:36 PM

Is it worthwhile vs brembos etc?
What master cyl will i need i have a bm44?

#11 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 03 May 2016 - 06:23 PM

So from my reading bm50 non abs master cyl would be best with an r34 gtt caliper upgrade.
But atop of this if i have a 5 stud rear would they go on or is there more tricks to be had?
Or would r34gtt fronts and s14 rears be ok?
Track use only no road use at all

#12 _Wing_

  • Joined:10-July 04
  • Location:Australia NSW

Posted 04 May 2016 - 05:19 PM

It's "OK" but not good, match your rears to your front - especially for track use.

#13 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 04 May 2016 - 06:27 PM

Agree after more reading.
Looking at r34gtt front and twin pot gtst rears now i rekon.
Just attempting to sort out 3 port non abs bm50 for it.


#14 robbo_rb180

  • Joined:26-August 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:sil80 & s14

Posted 04 May 2016 - 10:47 PM

Buy abs bm50. You can drill and tap the 3rd port into it.
I did it to a bm57 with no problems.

#15 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 05 May 2016 - 06:01 AM

What about using a bm57?

#16 robbo_rb180

  • Joined:26-August 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:sil80 & s14

Posted 05 May 2016 - 06:15 PM

Use the master suited for the brakes your using so if you're using r34 fronts and R33 rear use r34 BMC.

#17 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 07 May 2016 - 08:38 AM

Ordered the r34gtt front and gtst rear with hanbrake drum and all components.
See how we go.
Hoping its worth the effort over the s15 front and s14 rears i have on there now .


#18 robbo_rb180

  • Joined:26-August 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:sil80 & s14

Posted 07 May 2016 - 09:28 AM

Also get decent rotors and brake pads. If you can spend a bit more and get the project mu rc09 never had issues with big high speed stops and the initial bite is really good.

#19 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 07 May 2016 - 11:26 AM

Thanks mate.
I need to see what project mu pads i had as they faded pretty quick.
Also looking at winmax and circo currently

#20 Dose Pipe Sutututu

  • Joined:19-January 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:Boat Sutututuutu

Posted 09 May 2016 - 11:24 AM

Project MU HC800 are decent

or try

Intima Type-D next time

#21 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 09 May 2016 - 12:20 PM

Ok I will look them up. Thanks heaps for the advice

#22 Dose Pipe Sutututu

  • Joined:19-January 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:Boat Sutututuutu

Posted 09 May 2016 - 02:12 PM

I stock Type-D pads :)

#23 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 09 May 2016 - 03:49 PM

How do you think the Type - D pads would fare for hillclimb stuff? No good as not in operating temps?

#24 Dose Pipe Sutututu

  • Joined:19-January 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:Boat Sutututuutu

Posted 09 May 2016 - 04:12 PM

I've installed it into my car and also Phil (the other member of trak-life) will be running them all round on his S15

So far I've driven around town in them, they seem like normal pads. No squeal, etc.. and they stop fine.. the real test will be the track!

I think for Hillclimb stuff they "should" be ok, however Intima SR might be a better fit!

#25 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 09 May 2016 - 05:58 PM

Its a track only / trailer car if that helps. Will prob do more track than anything else.

#26 Dose Pipe Sutututu

  • Joined:19-January 05
  • Location:Australia NSW
  • Car:Boat Sutututuutu

Posted 10 May 2016 - 09:15 AM

I'll do a review of the Type-D pads after the 30th of May :)

So far street driving on the Type-D doesn't do justice

#27 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 10 May 2016 - 11:37 AM

Also considering winmax w7 front and w3 rears

#28 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 10 May 2016 - 03:09 PM

Ok back to square 1.
Advice.
Hfm bm57 3 port
2 port abs bm50 with t piece?

#29 davidg2152

  • Joined:13-March 16
  • Location:Australia ACT
  • Car:S13 SR20DET

Posted 10 May 2016 - 07:56 PM

http://www.ebay.com....t-/222067760555

????

#30 robbo_rb180

  • Joined:26-August 08
  • Location:Australia QLD
  • Car:sil80 & s14

Posted 10 May 2016 - 08:23 PM

don't use the holfords bmc. mine never worked/felt right. i have used it with r32 gtr calipers and r33 gtr brembo calipers.
just get a bm50 abs and take it to a brake shop and have them tap the 3rd port. that way all the factory lines are used and is neater.





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